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From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@www3.cern.ch>
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To: Dan Connolly <connolly@pixel.convex.com>
Subject: Re: Freezing the HTML spec Re: Comments in HTML ?
Cc: www-talk@nxoc01.cern.ch
Reply-To: timbl@nxoc01.cern.ch
Dan, I agree with all your points. I have a few comments below.
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:49:51 CST
> From: Dan Connolly <connolly@pixel.convex.com>
>
...
> * Use the LineMode browser as a reference implementation.
> Try not to include features that www doesn't grok.
If there is a bug in the current W3 library, then we can fix that,
rather than work our way around tortuously. Like the problem
with elements not being allowed within anchors -- that had just never
been tested and happened to have a bug.
> 3. Revise the spec so that it's internally consistent. Right
> now, there are some glitches. And the current method of
> sending suggestions to Tim and hoping he finds time to make
> the edits is no good. Hmmm... we definitely need a CSCW
> strategy for group-editing of documents.
Don't we just!
If you can serve up a current version, then could you be editor?
> 4. Register the spec with the IANA or IETF or whatever.
>
> Meanwhile, I think it's pretty important to fix the NeXT editor
> and all the files on info.cern.ch. Folks are using that as a
> reference, and perpetuating HTML that conflicts with the SGML
> standard.
Fixing the NeXTStep editor is the problem.
>
> SGML is a mess!
>
I agree. It is a political decsion to use it. We should try to avoid
using weird constructs, though, so that HTML is as clean as possible
notwithstanding the SGML mess.
> >> Does any of the existing WWW code support comments ?
> >
> >As it happens, the current library supports them, so the line mdoe
> >browser and anything else based on the library does. But it has
> >been left out of the doc and so will probably me missing from other browers.
> >
>
> Try the <? foo > construct.
The SGML systems at CERN use <? > for low-level commands, which I think
is what they were intended for, like embedded TeX or script commands.
Puttimng arbitrary comments in as processor instructions might cause
unpredicatble effects. <comment>...</comment> is an easy thing to define,
use, doesn't use any features which some parsers don't have, and
is also rather self-explanarory.
> Dan
>
>
Tim